Joseph Gardiner
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Hello Jon,
Our office created with the assistance of IT our own software that works great with no cost (licencing fees). Suppression’s software is out of date as identified by the FUS and is going to get a replacement (Crisis) which will also replace fire prevention’s software.
Hopefully this helps,
Joe Gardiner
North Bay Fire
Hello Nicholas,
I would agree with Keith Wells and say we have no authority over provincially ran properties. You may want to contact OFMEM, MOE or MNR for more information.
My basis for my thoughts relates to Communiqué 97-034 . It doesn’t necessarily speak to your particular question but makes clear we have no jurisdiction over provincial/federal affairs.
I would be interested to hear what you have learned.
Joe Gardiner
North Bay
Hello Martin,
North Bay Fire has no OG’s or policies regarding the storage of photographs.
I don’t think it is necessarily imperative at this point. I have been in court multiple times for part III’s and photographs are my main form of evidence and it has never been an issue.
However, I mark the time and date the picture was taken, location of the picture, person who took the picture, inspection/investigation number, person who labeled the pictures and finally our service name (North Bay Fire).
Hope this helps,
Joe Gardiner
North Bay
Hello Howie, See below in the body of your questions for my response. Sorry it took so long, my email used to advise me of a board discussion but it does not now. Hopefully this helps you.
Joe Gardiner
North Bay
Hello Everyone,
I was wondering if departments could share how there ” On Call ” works for their respective departments.
1. Does the fire prevention staff rotate On Call – Yes
2. Call out criteria for the suppression staff <b>- N/A suppression is not on call</b>
3.Time period that the fire prevention staff is On Call ( it is for 7 days 7 am Monday till 7 am Monday in PTBO) – we are on from Friday morning to Friday morning.
4. The compensation for the fire prevention staff for the On Call time. ( even if you are not called in ) – $60 a week
5. Is there a min time for getting called on the phone for advice. – 6 hours
6. From the time you receive a call for investigation, what is the expected time frame for you to arrive. – Shortly after the call, 1/2 seems to be too much for our administration.Thank you for your input,
Hello Vince,
My answers below.
Do you have acting positions in prevention? Yes, but has not been filled in 8-10 years.
Who is eligible for these positions, prerequisites etc. ? the person who has the most seniority.
What situation(s) have the acting assuming the role of their acting rank? N/A
Do you have a qualifying list? noThanks,
Joe
Hello Everyone,
Thank you all for providing me your input and thoughts.
Have a great week,
Joe
Rob,
I would go back to the property to conduct a final or follow up inspection. If OFC violations still exist you should issue another order. Charge the company if the order is not complied with.
I would suggest consulting your city prosecutor before doing anything.
Joe Gardiner
Vince,
1. Are your fire inspectors certified as building inspectors? No
2. Do your fire inspectors conduct plans review? No
3. Do your fire inspectors conduct inspections on new construction / alterations (building permit issued)? No
4. Does your building department pay the wages of your fire inspectors that do plans review? (Are they paid an hourly rate by the building department for their services?) N/A
5. Does your building department cover the cost of BCIN courses, building codes, exams and annual certification? N/A
Hope this helps,
Joe
Gregory,
This is a tricky one. Not having all of the information, I could surmise that the building has been changed from its original occupancy without a building permit that would have addressed your exit sign issue. I would start by testing your theory with the requirements found in the Ontario Building Code. If you still figure that exit signage is required, I suggest issuing an order under 21 (f). You could write the order two ways; if you are confident of the sign location requirement, you could order the installation of the signs OR write and order to have the building be assessed by a professional (designer-architect-engineer) to determine the appropriate exit signage required by the OBC for that particular occupancy. I would personally go with the second option and would also speak with your Building Department to determine if they have any options for you before proceeding with the order. I hope this helps.
Joe Gardiner
Hello Darren,
I would definitely issue a fire order to have the owner remove the combustible furniture from this alcove. There are a couple sections in Part 2 OFC that immediately come to mind when dealing with this issue 2.4.1.1.(2) & 2.4.1.2. The latter provides you the ability to approve non-combustible furniture in this area i.e. solid wood furniture. This order is easily justified given your past experience with fires occurring of the same nature. I have inspected all of the buildings in North Bay that have a similar configuration to the building in your synopsis and have consistently enforced this section with 100% compliance. Hopefully this helps.
Joe
Hello Doug,
I was a police officer and did one for Fire College about 7 years ago or so. Send me an email if you are interested. [email protected]
Joe
Good Morning John,
NFPA 80, Chapter 19 does a good job explaining the checking, inspecting and testing of fire dampers. I would not approve any other inspection schedule unless it is referenced in the manufactures instructions. The cost of inspecting fire dampers is unfortunately the cost of doing business. Hopefully this provides you enough information to get you started.
Joe Gardiner
Hello Dave,
The installation of this suppression system would require a building permit which would deal with both systems and elevate you getting involved. I would contact your building department and they will more than likely require the owner retain an architect to figure this conundrum out depending on the occupancy. Hopefully this helps.
Joe
I personally think you would be justified using 21 (b) order or don’t approve their fire safety plan as per 2.8.2.1. (1) unless they implement a system that satisfies you.
We have not experienced this in North Bay.
Hello Martin,
OFM-TG-01-2012 – has a good explanation of the entire enforcement procedure. The North Bay Fire Department does not have policies or guidelines for laying information’s. In a nut shell, we typically charge by way of long form information when there is more than one OFC violation because the offence(s) is grievous in nature, they are repeat offenders or we cannot achieve a timely and cooperative compliance. Charges must always be discussed with our administrators due to the delicate nature of our small political community. Hopefully this helps. I’ve posted a link below to the TG.
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