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    • #8939
      Howard JinkersonHoward Jinkerson
      Participant
      • Department Name: Trent Lakes Fire Rescue

      Hello Everyone,

      I was wondering if departments could share how there ” On Call ” works for their respective departments.
      1. Does the fire prevention staff rotate On Call
      2. Call out criteria for the suppression staff
      3.Time period that the fire prevention staff is On Call ( it is for 7 days 7 am Monday till 7 am Monday in PTBO)
      4. The compensation for the fire prevention staff for the On Call time. ( even if you are not called in )
      5. Is there a min time for getting called on the phone for advice.
      6. From the time you receive a call for investigation, what is the expected time frame for you to arrive.

      Thank you for your input,

      Howie

    • #8940
      Steve FowldsSteve Fowlds
      Participant

      1. Does the fire prevention staff rotate On Call
      Yes, one week at a time starting Mondays, Tuesday if a long weekend.

      2. Call out criteria for the suppression staff
      when fire is of unknown origion or ofm required also in events where assistance may be required such as organizing red cross etc

      3.Time period that the fire prevention staff is On Call ( it is for 7 days 7 am Monday till 7 am Monday in PTBO)
      Monday 8:30 am to Monday 8:30 am. Staff have flexibility to trade weeks/days of coverage.

      4. The compensation for the fire prevention staff for the On Call time. ( even if you are not called in )
      $25 per day, plus minimum 3hrs Ot/Bank time if called in.

      5. Is there a min time for getting called on the phone for advice.
      No compensation for phone consultation.

      6. From the time you receive a call for investigation, what is the expected time frame for you to arrive.
      1hr to the scene.

    • #9247
      Joseph GardinerJoseph Gardiner
      Participant
      • City: North Bay
      • Department Name: North Bay Fire & Emergency Services

      Hello Howie, See below in the body of your questions for my response. Sorry it took so long, my email used to advise me of a board discussion but it does not now. Hopefully this helps you.

      Joe Gardiner

      North Bay

      Hello Everyone,

      I was wondering if departments could share how there ” On Call ” works for their respective departments.
      1. Does the fire prevention staff rotate On Call – Yes
      2. Call out criteria for the suppression staff <b>- N/A suppression is not on call</b>
      3.Time period that the fire prevention staff is On Call ( it is for 7 days 7 am Monday till 7 am Monday in PTBO) – we are on from Friday morning to Friday morning. 
      4. The compensation for the fire prevention staff for the On Call time. ( even if you are not called in ) – $60 a week
      5. Is there a min time for getting called on the phone for advice. – 6 hours
      6. From the time you receive a call for investigation, what is the expected time frame for you to arrive. – Shortly after the call, 1/2 seems to be too much for our administration. 

      Thank you for your input,

    • #9252
      Denise RoseDenise Rose
      Participant
      • City: London
      • Department Name: London Fire Department

      Howie,

      1. Does the fire prevention staff rotate On Call – of our 30 FPOs we have 8 plus 2 spares that rotate on call

      2. Call out criteria for the suppression staff – fires over 50K, or fires where the cause can’t be determined by the suppression captain

      3.Time period that the fire prevention staff is On Call ( it is for 7 days 7 am Monday till 7 am Monday in PTBO) – 2 investigators on call from Tuesday 7:30 am for 7 days – alternate each call.

      4. The compensation for the fire prevention staff for the On Call time. ( even if you are not called in ) – we get 12 hours straight time for carrying the pager.

      5. Is there a min time for getting called on the phone for advice – 2 hours

      6. From the time you receive a call for investigation, what is the expected time frame for you to arrive. – no expectations, but most investigators arrive within an hour.

    • #9411
      Frank DevereauxFrank Devereaux
      Participant

      1. Does the fire prevention staff rotate On Call – Yes (Every 6 weeks)
      2. Call out criteria for the suppression staff – $5,000 Damage or if a line is pull or water supply is made
      3.Time period that the fire prevention staff is On Call ( it is for 7 days 7 am Monday till 7 am Monday in PTBO) – 7 Days (Tuesday to Tuesday)
      4. The compensation for the fire prevention staff for the On Call time. ( even if you are not called in ) – 7 hours straight time (1 hour a day)
      5. Is there a min time for getting called on the phone for advice. – 2 hours at time and a half (3 hours)
      6. From the time you receive a call for investigation, what is the expected time frame for you to arrive. – 1 hours to be on scene from being requested/notified.

    • #9412
      John WilsonJohn Wilson
      Participant
      • Department Name: Perth Fire Services

      In Perth, we are a one-hall volunteer dept. The Chief and I (as FPO) are the only full-time staff. Separate from my FPO duties, I’m also part of the suppression crew. Due to our typical call volume and type (our last true structure fire was June 2017 just before I started), either the Chief will deal with it after hours or it waits until the next business day for me and/or him.

      1. Does the fire prevention staff rotate On Call No
      2. Call out criteria for the suppression staff I’ll already likely be there as part of the suppression crew
      3.Time period that the fire prevention staff is On Call ( it is for 7 days 7 am Monday till 7 am Monday in PTBO) N/A
      4. The compensation for the fire prevention staff for the On Call time. ( even if you are not called in ) N/A
      5. Is there a min time for getting called on the phone for advice. N/A
      6. From the time you receive a call for investigation, what is the expected time frame for you to arrive. I’ll already likely be there as part of the suppression crew

    • #9441
      Vince TrippVince Tripp
      Moderator

      Hi Howie,

      In Richmond Hill we have no prevention staff on call. They used to call any of the 4 people on the Fire Investigation Unit to see who was available. There was no compensation for being on call other then overtime if called in, but there was no expectation to report if you were unavailable. That system didn’t work.  We proposed having an on-call list that would cover 24/7/365, and the person on call would be compensated with one hour of overtime for every day on call. This proposal was refused by management. Now if it is determined that the FIU are required on a scene during non work hours 0700-1730 Monday to Friday ,the scene will have to be held until an FIU member reports during working hours.

       

    • #9453
      Roel BusRoel Bus
      Participant

      Ours is very similar to Richmond Hill’s current no on-call, and Vince is right, it doesn’t work. For a while, management approved to call in overtime suppression staff to hold the scene overnight, until one of our two investigators could attend in daylight, but that has since been taken off the table. Discussions aplenty, no solutions as of yet…

    • #9721
      Martin SaumureMartin Saumure
      Participant

      Anyone willing to share any SOP or OG in regards to having the fire prevention division contacted in the event of fires?  send to [email protected]   thanks in advance.

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