Forum Replies Created
-
AuthorPosts
-
November 16, 2021 at 11:56 am in reply to: Issues with False Smoke Alarm Activiations in new construction #14049Deleted UserParticipant
We’ve encountered the same issue in Ajax within the past two (2) months in a new subdivision installed with First Alert model 7020BSLA. Middle of the night activations. In one case, the family told me their 3 year old daughter was afraid to return to her bedroom because of the flashing light. In each case the homeowner reached out to First Alert (BRK) for a replacement unit.
Deleted UserParticipantWe have used section 6.9 as systems continued to freeze. Once building is empty there is limited danger. No different from the building being under construction.
Deleted UserParticipantNo charges in R Hill
Deleted UserParticipantRichmond Hill does.
Deleted UserParticipantVince,
In Kawartha Lakes we do the following:
1. Are your fire inspectors certified as building inspectors? Have Legal and Fire Protection (Not designated by Council as OBC Inspectors)
2. Do your fire inspectors conduct plans review? –>Comment usually Site Plan only
3. Do your fire inspectors conduct inspections on new construction / alterations (building permit issued)? –>We are going with building Department to all Part 3 Occupancy Inspections, NFPA 96 inspections and as requested. Have good relationship with Building Department. We conduct monthly meetings with CBO and Plans reviewer
4. Does your building department pay the wages of your fire inspectors that do plans review? –-> No
5. Does your building department cover the cost of BCIN courses, building codes, exams and annual certification? –>NoDeleted UserParticipantHi Vince,
1. Are your fire inspectors certified as building inspectors? Yes (Appointed by council for fire safety related issues)2. Do your fire inspectors conduct plans review? Yes (Building permits are not to be issued without the Fire Department’s approval. However this does not apply to single family residential buildings). On average, 6.5% of our time is spent conducting plans review.
3. Do your fire inspectors conduct inspections on new construction / alterations (building permit issued)? Yes. On average 12.4% of our time is spent conducting building inspections.
4. Does your building department pay the wages of your fire inspectors that do plans review? (Are they paid an hourly rate by the building department for their services?) No, not directly, but all municipal revenues including building permit fees and development charges go into the same account. The fire department costs come out of that account.
5. Does your building department cover the cost of BCIN courses, building codes, exams and annual certification? No. Same answer as #4. Courses, codes and annual certifications are budgeted for by the fire department and approved by council.
Keith Doucette
AjaxDeleted UserParticipantRobert, thanks for this post. Wendy my prayer and though are with you. Be strong girl.
Deleted UserParticipantThe OBC allows doors, other than those in a Group A Division 1, to have a flamespread rating of not more than 200. [Div. B, 3.1.13.2.(2)] The type of material that the door is constructed of will affect the rating. Metal and most wood doors are acceptable. Coverings of most alkyd and latex paints will also satisfy this requirement. The thing to watch for is a shellac or lacquer covering which may cause the door to exceed the permitted flamespread.
Deleted UserParticipantGreat job!
Fire investigation is another hot topic that should be brought on the table.
Deleted UserParticipantBonjour Armando
I am only recommending wireless, interconnected, battery operated smoke alarms in residential unit and only if they do not have hard wire smoke detectors. If hardwire smoke detector is in an apartment it stays like this.
Hope it help
Deleted UserParticipantYes; much larger chance of removal of batteries and maintenance issues. We only allow wireless interconnects on 9.8’s
Deleted UserParticipantSo far Scott, no hay maze in Quinte west
Deleted UserParticipantWe have a system similar to Scott’s. The main difference is that if no Fire Prevention personell is available, we call a private security company to secure the scene until an Inspector is available(could be monday morning). That allows the fire crew to go back in service. We recover the security fees from the insurance company.
Deleted UserParticipantAllo Denis
We have a special event form that I can send to you when i am back to work
Deleted UserParticipantGood question. The size limits in the OBC are different for both. The required FRR is also affected by the answer. As the shutter is initiated by the fire alarm, I would expect it would by tested monthly and considered an ancillary device under CAN/ULC-S536. This would require electrical supervision of the power source? The back up battery would also require testing and maintenace. All this would be identified in the fire safety plan. I am curious to know if these panels hold up over time? What about all those moving parts? What preventative maintenace can be put into place to ensure that the correct operation of the device does not soley fall onto the fire department inspector when he shows up to conduct an inspection.(perhaps an annual inspection by the manufacturer). What happens when the business/property changes ownership? Objective-Based Codes???…
-
AuthorPosts