Fire Prevention On-Call information

[Anonymous]

Hello Everyone,

I was wondering if departments could share how there ” On Call ” works for their respective departments.
1. Does the fire prevention staff rotate On Call
2. Call out criteria for the suppression staff
3.Time period that the fire prevention staff is On Call ( it is for 7 days 7 am Monday till 7 am Monday in PTBO)
4. The compensation for the fire prevention staff for the On Call time. ( even if you are not called in )
5. Is there a min time for getting called on the phone for advice.
6. From the time you receive a call for investigation, what is the expected time frame for you to arrive.

Thank you for your input,

Howie

[Steve Fowlds]

1. Does the fire prevention staff rotate On Call
Yes, one week at a time starting Mondays, Tuesday if a long weekend.

2. Call out criteria for the suppression staff
when fire is of unknown origion or ofm required also in events where assistance may be required such as organizing red cross etc

3.Time period that the fire prevention staff is On Call ( it is for 7 days 7 am Monday till 7 am Monday in PTBO)
Monday 8:30 am to Monday 8:30 am. Staff have flexibility to trade weeks/days of coverage.

4. The compensation for the fire prevention staff for the On Call time. ( even if you are not called in )
$25 per day, plus minimum 3hrs Ot/Bank time if called in.

5. Is there a min time for getting called on the phone for advice.
No compensation for phone consultation.

6. From the time you receive a call for investigation, what is the expected time frame for you to arrive.
1hr to the scene.

[Joseph Gardiner]

Hello Howie, See below in the body of your questions for my response. Sorry it took so long, my email used to advise me of a board discussion but it does not now. Hopefully this helps you.

Joe Gardiner

North Bay

Hello Everyone,

I was wondering if departments could share how there ” On Call ” works for their respective departments.
1. Does the fire prevention staff rotate On Call – Yes
2. Call out criteria for the suppression staff <b>- N/A suppression is not on call</b>
3.Time period that the fire prevention staff is On Call ( it is for 7 days 7 am Monday till 7 am Monday in PTBO) – we are on from Friday morning to Friday morning. 
4. The compensation for the fire prevention staff for the On Call time. ( even if you are not called in ) – $60 a week
5. Is there a min time for getting called on the phone for advice. – 6 hours
6. From the time you receive a call for investigation, what is the expected time frame for you to arrive. – Shortly after the call, 1/2 seems to be too much for our administration. 

Thank you for your input,

[Denise Rose]

Howie,

1. Does the fire prevention staff rotate On Call – of our 30 FPOs we have 8 plus 2 spares that rotate on call

2. Call out criteria for the suppression staff – fires over 50K, or fires where the cause can’t be determined by the suppression captain

3.Time period that the fire prevention staff is On Call ( it is for 7 days 7 am Monday till 7 am Monday in PTBO) – 2 investigators on call from Tuesday 7:30 am for 7 days – alternate each call.

4. The compensation for the fire prevention staff for the On Call time. ( even if you are not called in ) – we get 12 hours straight time for carrying the pager.

5. Is there a min time for getting called on the phone for advice – 2 hours

6. From the time you receive a call for investigation, what is the expected time frame for you to arrive. – no expectations, but most investigators arrive within an hour.

[Frank Devereaux]

1. Does the fire prevention staff rotate On Call – Yes (Every 6 weeks)
2. Call out criteria for the suppression staff – $5,000 Damage or if a line is pull or water supply is made
3.Time period that the fire prevention staff is On Call ( it is for 7 days 7 am Monday till 7 am Monday in PTBO) – 7 Days (Tuesday to Tuesday)
4. The compensation for the fire prevention staff for the On Call time. ( even if you are not called in ) – 7 hours straight time (1 hour a day)
5. Is there a min time for getting called on the phone for advice. – 2 hours at time and a half (3 hours)
6. From the time you receive a call for investigation, what is the expected time frame for you to arrive. – 1 hours to be on scene from being requested/notified.

[John Wilson]

In Perth, we are a one-hall volunteer dept. The Chief and I (as FPO) are the only full-time staff. Separate from my FPO duties, I’m also part of the suppression crew. Due to our typical call volume and type (our last true structure fire was June 2017 just before I started), either the Chief will deal with it after hours or it waits until the next business day for me and/or him.

1. Does the fire prevention staff rotate On Call No
2. Call out criteria for the suppression staff I’ll already likely be there as part of the suppression crew
3.Time period that the fire prevention staff is On Call ( it is for 7 days 7 am Monday till 7 am Monday in PTBO) N/A
4. The compensation for the fire prevention staff for the On Call time. ( even if you are not called in ) N/A
5. Is there a min time for getting called on the phone for advice. N/A
6. From the time you receive a call for investigation, what is the expected time frame for you to arrive. I’ll already likely be there as part of the suppression crew

[Vince Tripp]

Hi Howie,

In Richmond Hill we have no prevention staff on call. They used to call any of the 4 people on the Fire Investigation Unit to see who was available. There was no compensation for being on call other then overtime if called in, but there was no expectation to report if you were unavailable. That system didn’t work.  We proposed having an on-call list that would cover 24/7/365, and the person on call would be compensated with one hour of overtime for every day on call. This proposal was refused by management. Now if it is determined that the FIU are required on a scene during non work hours 0700-1730 Monday to Friday ,the scene will have to be held until an FIU member reports during working hours.

 

[Roel Bus]

Ours is very similar to Richmond Hill’s current no on-call, and Vince is right, it doesn’t work. For a while, management approved to call in overtime suppression staff to hold the scene overnight, until one of our two investigators could attend in daylight, but that has since been taken off the table. Discussions aplenty, no solutions as of yet…

[Martin Saumure]

Anyone willing to share any SOP or OG in regards to having the fire prevention division contacted in the event of fires?  send to msaumure@Clarence-rockland.com   thanks in advance.

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